Crafting Tattoos

[Sgt 86Delta]

How do you get Magic Tattoos?
Tattoo Magic is extremely rare. Splugorth High Lords, the Splugorth themselves, ancient Chiang-Ku dragons (the only originators of tattoo magic and the only beings capable of doing tattoo art on dragons), and the Master Alchemists of the various True Atlantean Clans. The only known master on Rifts Earth (from Clan Skellian) resides in Manoa, but few know how to get to that city without first going through Center or Alexandria in the Phase World Dimension. Clan Achereon’s Master resides on the planet Alexandria or one of their outpost worlds in the Three Galaxies. The locations of other clan alchemists are not widely known, even among True Atlanteans, and none are known by anyone else. Characters without a friendly Tattoo Alchemist will be unable to gain new tattoos, so GMs are encouraged to make one available. Note this is also a mercantile relationship, so be prepared to pay in cash or favors.

Tattoo Magic

Is the above quoted section, just Palladium fluff or SavageRifts.com cannon?

If this is cannon, then a Chaing-Ku would not need to take AB Tattoos in order to create and make and ink tattoos. As AB Alchemy is their racial skill, they would just need the appropriate experience to become a Master of Magic (Seasoned Rank 1).

[Ndreare]

I believe the Dragon can make its own tattoos with the new power edge representing time and energy investment.

Likewise a Human, Ogre, Elf, or Atlantean could get one from the dragon my expecting a edge.

That was fluff from atlantis, before England. The racial alchemy covers what is needed.

However, I would say if you give the tattoo to someone who does not have the experience needed for the edge. That would be represented by those cases where people died instead of the tattoo working. Something bit in the fluff happens

[High Command]

There's a reason we need a separate thread for dealing with PCs making tattoos. Unless the PC made tattoos are made using the enchanted items rules, we just don't have a methodology for making them, no more than we have a methodology for PCs making cybernetics.

[Ndreare]

I would not consider a mechanic, but a flavor or excuse to allow the edge.

Any doctor with healing Knowledge Cybernetics and knowledge medicine can install cybernetics.

No need for a mechanic to do it, because it is downtime type stuff, that takes weeks or months.

We only need mechanics for things in the adventures.

[Sgt 86Delta]

There's a reason we need a separate thread for dealing with PCs making tattoos. Unless the PC made tattoos are made using the enchanted items rules, we just don't have a methodology for making them, no more than we have a methodology for PCs making cybernetics.

@Patrick, I think you are in the right direction.

I would not consider a mechanic, but a flavor or excuse to allow the edge.

Any doctor with healing Knowledge Cybernetics and knowledge medicine can install cybernetics.

No need for a mechanic to do it, because it is downtime type stuff, that takes weeks or months.

We only need mechanics for things in the adventures.

@Rob the doctor can install existing cybernetics, but what about crafting a unique cybernetic mod?

I follow where you are going with downtime fluff, but I love to build and create and having these kind of rules in place now mean less hassle with the details in the future. I guarentee that crafting is one of the reasons I role play.

[Ndreare]

For unique new stuff, I would drop a big red flag and agree a separate thread.

[Sgt 86Delta]

Agreed.

[High Command]

You're right, an adult Chiang-Ku who has studied literally for centuries would be able to simple do what they want in terms of creating tattoos, and literally any other type of magic item. That is not what we are discussing. We are discussing a child who's lifespan is measured in weeks and months. They haven't had the breadth of experience to even see a magic tattoo DONE, much less do one themselves. Even if they have spent years learning and studying at the hands of another Chiang-Ku, they would still have difficulty.

I am considering something else, and once I have it, I will post further.

[High Command]

http://savagerifts.com/sr/viewtopic.php ... 166#p35166

Here's the definitive answer. Uses existing Tattoo creation rules, but with AB Enchanting limits.

[Ndreare]

I am okay with this, I assume both tattoos and Enchanting include a component cost about equal to TW cost.


Also a warning that failure causes both the Alchemist and the recipient a fatigue.

[High Command]

I moved your reply since those rules threads are not for discussion. I updated it to include a note on time frame and the consequences of failure.

[Sgt 86Delta]

My reason for posting the questions and concerns was because, I am crafting an Legendary Chaing-Ku.

Wanted to make sure I was understanding the mechanics properly.

[High Command]

A Legendary adult Chiang-Ku can literally make whatever he wants to. In fact, I put in there specifically that they can break the rules. A Legendary Hatchling would still be able to make one with 4 Major and 2 minor qualities. One thing this does do is I can see people getting tattoos for signature items, especially if they are playing a human, ogre, or True Atlantean.

[Ndreare]

A Legendary adult Chiang-Ku can literally make whatever he wants to. In fact, I put in there specifically that they can break the rules. A Legendary Hatchling would still be able to make one with 4 Major and 2 minor qualities. One thing this does do is I can see people getting tattoos for signature items, especially if they are playing a human, ogre, or True Atlantean.

I would not allow signature item tattoos.

It would let someones signature item be cooler than mine, and that is not okay.

[Sgt 86Delta]

Kind of petty but understandable Rob.

[High Command]

A Legendary adult Chiang-Ku can literally make whatever he wants to. In fact, I put in there specifically that they can break the rules. A Legendary Hatchling would still be able to make one with 4 Major and 2 minor qualities. One thing this does do is I can see people getting tattoos for signature items, especially if they are playing a human, ogre, or True Atlantean.

I would not allow signature item tattoos.

It would let someones signature item be cooler than mine, and that is not okay.

I know it's hard to accept Rob, but there can be things cooler than yours. It's okay, we understand you are petty and insecure. We don't think you any lesser (even if you are) for it.

[Ndreare]

Kind of petty but understandable Rob.

What do you mean "kind of"?

I know it's hard to accept Rob, but there can be things cooler than yours. It's okay, we understand you are petty and insecure. We don't think you any lesser (even if you are) for it.

Hey, wait, now.