Armor of the Sun Jaguar

[Imperator]

Kinich Ahau looked down on creation, saw the blight of the vampire and demons infesting the earth and despaired that his holy light did shine but half the day. At night, when he was forced to travel the underworld, they were free to spread death and corruption. He knew the various jaguar people fought valiantly to stem the tide but often lacked the tools to easily end such foes. So he sent a vision to the priest-smiths of the tribes showing them the blessings and preparations to so enhance the armors of the cat people to better end their hated foes.

Stats

• Protection: +9 armor, +2 toughness
• Min strength: d6
• Weight: 12lbs
• Value: 70,000 credits
• Notes: Wearer may cast the Smite power with Sunlight trapping if they have PP. For an addition PP the trapping is replaced with celestial silver.

The technical stuff

Base Item, Medium Enchanted Armor Cost: 15,000 credits
Minor Mod: +2 armor Cost: 5,000 credits
Minor Mod: +2 armor Cost: 5,000 credits
Major Mod: Other Power Modifier: May replace sunlight with celestial silver trapping on Smite power for +1 PP. Power costs +1 PP to activate. Cost: 25,000 credits (???)
Major Mod: Power Smite with Sunlight trapping Cost: 20,000 credits

[Pender Lumkiss]

Changing the trapping of something to something else seems more of a major mod in swade. I think power mods are a major mod in swade... even though changing a trapping is not an available power mod, I would still put it in that category.

[Koshnek]

Maybe add it as a power modifier? For +1? PPE the armors smite power can be activated with a holy trapping instead of a sunlight trapping.

New Power or a new trapping to an existing power is half of an edge.

But in this case, a new power is worth a full major mod.

Adding a minor trapping which gives a new trapping is worth half an edge, which is about right for a minor mod, but as already established a power is worth a full edge.

But you’re not getting a new power, just a different mode of your existing power.

So that’s my wiggle-room suggestion: add it as a power modifier. You’re getting half an edges worth of effect for a minor mod, but at an increased activation cost so as not to step on the toes of adding a power major mod.

[Imperator]

Maybe add it as a power modifier? For +1? PPE the armors smite power can be activated with a holy trapping instead of a sunlight trapping.

New Power or a new trapping to an existing power is half of an edge.

But in this case, a new power is worth a full major mod.

Adding a minor trapping which gives a new trapping is worth half an edge, which is about right for a minor mod, but as already established a power is worth a full edge.

But you’re not getting a new power, just a different mode of your existing power.

So that’s my wiggle-room suggestion: add it as a power modifier. You’re getting half an edges worth of effect for a minor mod, but at an increased activation cost so as not to step on the toes of adding a power major mod.

Yup, that's what Jon and I thought in a PM convo

[Pender Lumkiss]

Major mod: Add a power modifier available to the creator to a device power. Increase the activate cost accordingly* (Cost: 20,000 credits).

[Ndreare]

Sure, go with it.
(Totally do not think a trapping is a major mod. But if that is the feeling of the majority, let it ride, rather than hang up over it.)

[Koshnek]

Major mod: Add a power modifier available to the creator to a device power. Increase the activate cost accordingly* (Cost: 20,000 credits).

This is straight from TLPG, so it looks like it would be a major. Man, they’re being brutal to TW’s lol.

[Pender Lumkiss]

Major mod: Add a power modifier available to the creator to a device power. Increase the activate cost accordingly* (Cost: 20,000 credits).

This is straight from TLPG.

Yes.

[Koshnek]

So, I guess the question is, how much would a selectable trapping be worth as a power modifier? For Wizard it’s 1 PP, and I would be fine with that. (Especially being it’s a whole damn Major Mod slot!)

[Imperator]

Major mod: Add a power modifier available to the creator to a device power. Increase the activate cost accordingly* (Cost: 20,000 credits).

This is straight from TLPG.

Yes.

So, I guess the question is, how much would a selectable trapping be worth as a power modifier? For Wizard it’s 1 PP, and I would be fine with that. (Especially being it’s a whole damn Major Mod slot!)

Edited. Hows that look?

[Koshnek]

I would give it my seal of approval.

[Pender Lumkiss]

base Item!! I would wonder if that is really appropriate as a base item for enchanting? Presumably it has already been enchanted.

Maybe snag something out of SWADE core?

[Imperator]

I figured when they enchanted it they did the whole enchilada. Its stats are pretty much huntsman armor.

[Pender Lumkiss]

I figured when they enchanted it they did the whole enchilada. Its stats are pretty much huntsman armor.

How many mods does the existing enchanted armor start with?

[Imperator]

I figured when they enchanted it they did the whole enchilada. Its stats are pretty much huntsman armor.

How many mods does the existing enchanted armor start with?

Those dont look like they were built like that. More like "magic" versions of some of the base armors, ie faux tech. While a little cheaper and lighter, that's countered by not being alteravle after market.

[Tribe of One]

Per the final* version of our SWADE-ified Item Creation rules, Enchanted Armor is an appropriate option for a base item.

* meaning, how the rules looked when everyone stopped fighting/posting and generally appeared able to live with it.

[Imperator]

Per the final* version of our SWADE-ified Item Creation rules, Enchanted Armor is an appropriate option for a base item.

* meaning, how the rules looked when everyone stopped fighting/posting and generally appeared able to live with it.

Is that an approval? If so Just Need @Stoic

[Tribe of One]

Yeah, looks good to me.

[Stoic]

Approved