Mage Staff

[Ndreare]

The Mage staff presented in the HJ tables sees like the kind of thing enchanters would mass produce because of the marketability of them. (Though honestly +2 with one or the other would be more rational.)

But if they are mass market, how much would they cost?

The mage staff in the HJ tables. I figure that would market for about 175,000 credits


Staff 100
Enchantment 10
+1 Spellcasting 5000*2=10,000
+1 Faith 5000*2=10,000
10 PPE 30,000*2=60,000
Self Regenerating Major mod 20,000*2=40,000
Spend PPE to make MD = 0 (Common to all enchanted/TW stuff)
Sub total = 120,110
Sales Mark-up ~40-50%
Total ~175,000

[Freemage]

The Mage staff presented in the HJ tables sees like the kind of thing enchanters would mass produce because of the marketability of them. (Though honestly +2 with one or the other would be more rational.)

But if they are mass market, how much would they cost?

The mage staff in the HJ tables. I figure that would market for about 175,000 credits


Staff 100
Enchantment 10
+1 Spellcasting 5000*2=10,000
+1 Faith 5000*2=10,000
10 PPE 30,000*2=60,000
Self Regenerating Major mod 20,000*2=40,000
Spend PPE to make MD = 0 (Common to all enchanted/TW stuff)
Sub total = 120,110
Sales Mark-up ~40-50%
Total ~175,000

I have a quibble:
First (and biggest) is that I believe the PPE in the Staff is usable, not only to charge the weapon for MD purposes, but also for the caster's own spells. Serving as a PPE battery, rather than just self-powering, seems like it should be a higher cost.
Furthermore, since this regenerates at the same rate as the wielder, that means that it basically doubles the wielder's own regeneration for the first hour or two (depending on that individual's Recharge Edges).
In essence, this thing is carrying around the equivalent of 2 Power Points Edges, with a recharging kicker. Since these Edges stack with whatever the wielder has (theoretically pushing it over the max limit), I'm inclined to say that they count as Legendary versions of the PP Edge.
This means that the creator also needs to be Legendary--and thus, these staffs are not likely to be mass-produced at all, and when they are manufactured, their mark-up will be much, much higher--between 100 and 200 percent.

So, for my money, building the Staff "from scratch" would look like this:

Staff of Wonder
SteelTree Staff: 100 Cr
Minor: +1 Spellcasting: 10,000
Minor: +1 Faith: 10,000
Major: Legendary PPE Edge (x2): 500,000
Major: Self-Regenerating: GM-Approved Major Mod: 25,000 (treating a baseline ability of having an AB as a Novice Edge seems fair): 20,000
Subtotal: 540,100
Mark-Up: 100% minimum, 200% maximum
Total cost: 1.1 Million to 1.6 Million Cr.

Now, a knockoff version could be had much, much cheaper. As you note, you'd only need one Minor Mod for the +1 to a specific spellcasting version, and if the PPE is only usable for charging the weapon, and regenerates normally according to the rules for TW weapons, then...

Faux Staff of Wonder
SteelTree Staff: 100 Cr
Minor: +1 to one PPE-based Arcane Skill: 10K
Major: 10 PPE storage: 60K
Subtotal: 70,100K
Mark-up: 50-100%
Total Cost: 105K to 140K Cr.

A version of the Faux Staff that can Recharge itself (but still only uses the 10 PPE for charging up the staff as a weapon) would be closer to 135-180K.

[Ndreare]

In SWADE The staff no longer provides PPE the user can access like a PPE battery. The way I read the rules this means it can only be used to charge the staff.



PS: As a note Legendary Power Points edge only grants 2 Power Points, so it would be 5 edges if you went that way.

[Ndreare]

Special note

@Freemage While it is off topic from this topic and I do not believe the staff is intended to be a PPE battery anymore.

The creation of PPE devices accessible to the wielder using the +5 PPE minor mod is official as per A&M.

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