Merlaggon - Signature Item - Shapeshifter's Claw

[Hans Greuber]

This necklace is made from a leather thong that pierces a tooth. The tooth itself seems to be from some sort of chimera creature due to its mottled and patchwork appearance. It was made far to the south for use by shape changers to help them in combat.

Enchanted Item

• Minor Upgrades:
  • +1 to Fighting Rolls
  • +1 to Fighting Rolls
  Major Upgrades:
  • Custom - Size changes as the wearer does
  • Edge - Quick

[Freemage]

I've seen the size-change for Dragons before. Makes sense as a Major. Approved.

[Pender Lumkiss]

How is this getting bonus to fighting? Are you slapping someone with a necklace?

[Hans Greuber]

How is this getting bonus to fighting? Are you slapping someone with a necklace?

No. It makes the shapeshifter more in tune with whatever form he/she/it is in. I could limit it to just natural weapons

[Ndreare]

It is an enchanted item and does not need to follow the linear application like TW where it must be used in the skill to provide a bonus (one of the strengths for giving up those major mods).

PS: I approve.


PPS: I also used a Major Mod on Kid's bracers to let him use them when shape changing.

[Tribe of One]

Fine with me.

I see the points made by both Pender and Rob. Maybe rather than a necklace, trap it as a clawed glove or set of clawed rings that meld into the new form? Might even be an excuse to trap them as silver ...

[Ndreare]

Fine with me.

I see the points made by both Pender and Rob. Maybe rather than a necklace, trap it as a clawed glove or set of clawed rings that meld into the new form? Might even be an excuse to trap them as silver ...

Wow, some of those are pretty cool.

But especially

this one

[High Command]

Added bonus to the claw rings, you get to look like a pretentious new ager or "master of magic." Cory would probably like them too. Also, I'd make them gold, not silver. Just saying. Besides, his claws already damage supernatural things.

Approved

[Pender Lumkiss]

It is an enchanted item and does not need to follow the linear application like TW where it must be used in the skill to provide a bonus (one of the strengths for giving up those major mods).

PS: I approve.


PPS: I also used a Major Mod on Kid's bracers to let him use them when shape changing.

The +1 bonus to trait still needs to be appropriate to the item. I am just not seeing how a necklace gets a bonus to fighting. I do like the silver claw approach.

[Ndreare]

It is an enchanted item and does not need to follow the linear application like TW where it must be used in the skill to provide a bonus (one of the strengths for giving up those major mods).

PS: I approve.


PPS: I also used a Major Mod on Kid's bracers to let him use them when shape changing.

The +1 bonus to trait still needs to be appropriate to the item. I am just not seeing how a necklace gets a bonus to fighting. I do like the silver claw approach.

That is your prerogative as a GM to require it. However it is not normal to the Enchanted item rules, or examples from fiction and Palladium source material.

For example there is a belt that grants P.S. and a ring that grants I.Q. to top it off they have daggers that simply add +1 to all rolls.

[High Command]

The +1 bonus to trait still needs to be appropriate to the item. I am just not seeing how a necklace gets a bonus to fighting. I do like the silver claw approach.

I can actually point you to fluff (not Palladium, but still applicable) that uses the necklace because its actually enchanting the entire body, not just the fore claws. It would apply to the all of the claws, tail, elbows, knees, and wings and everything else. Its called the Amulet of Mighty Fists. And that's just one example. There are collars for animal companions, some built for dragons, and more. Again, all of these are from "that really big fantasy RPG."

[Hans Greuber]

I am looking to have the item affect all of his natural weapons... teeth, claws, and tail in his natural form.

[Pender Lumkiss]

The +1 bonus to trait still needs to be appropriate to the item. I am just not seeing how a necklace gets a bonus to fighting. I do like the silver claw approach.

I can actually point you to fluff (not Palladium, but still applicable) that uses the necklace because its actually enchanting the entire body, not just the fore claws. It would apply to the all of the claws, tail, elbows, knees, and wings and everything else. Its called the Amulet of Mighty Fists. And that's just one example. There are collars for animal companions, some built for dragons, and more. Again, all of these are from "that really big fantasy RPG."

The necklace is not making the fighting roll so by definition it is not an appropriate roll.

[High Command]

the body the necklace enchanting does though - for the record Clint's obsession with this is beyond reason because the trapping still works - that said, just use the claw ring because it looks awesome

[Hans Greuber]

I would rather have a mask that he puts on in human form and melds in when in other forms

[High Command]

Form and trappings aside, the item is approved enough to work out the details with VV.

[Pender Lumkiss]

So what I can have an enchanted pocket watch that adds +2 to fighting, +2 fighting die types?

To your specific point high command, the body is not being used to make a fighting roll, it is a weapon that is used to make the fighting roll. Whether it is natural or a vi-bro sword.

Make it a claw that shape changes into a wrist wrap or boxing glove, something that just blankets gives +1 to fighting to every fighting roll is not an appropriate trait roll to any item. How do I know this? It is an edge called Professional.

I am sorry I cannot agree with this. Could we just change the rules for enchanted items to drop the term appropriate trait roll? Its already a house rule( enchanted items) and it seems to get in the way more than provide fun anyway. It would probably just be best to edit that pesky part out.

[Hans Greuber]

So what I can have an enchanted pocket watch that adds +2 to fighting, +2 fighting die types?

To your specific point high command, the body is not being used to make a fighting roll, it is a weapon that is used to make the fighting roll. Whether it is natural or a vi-bro sword.

Make it a claw that shape changes into a wrist wrap or boxing glove, something that just blankets gives +1 to fighting to every fighting roll is not an appropriate trait roll to any item. How do I know this? It is an edge called Professional.

I am sorry I cannot agree with this. Could we just change the rules for enchanted items to drop the term appropriate trait roll? Its already a house rule( enchanted items) and it seems to get in the way more than provide fun anyway. It would probably just be best to edit that pesky part out.

Would it be possible for all natural weapons to be affected?

[Ndreare]

Could we just change the rules for enchanted items to drop the term appropriate trait roll? Its already a house rule( enchanted items) and it seems to get in the way more than provide fun anyway. It would probably just be best to edit that pesky part out.

Well there you have it. Someone reading the rules.
I completly missed those two little sentences.

[Hans Greuber]

If having it affect only his Natural Weapons is not enough, I guess it will end up being a Silver Mask that will make his teeth and face Silver in colour, and have the bonus.

[Ndreare]

What if it wraps his body in fiery silver when called upon!

[Hans Greuber]

It does not have the Silver Trapping... so maybe his scales turn from the standard Flamewing colours to that of steel...

[Hans Greuber]

I was wondering, has this item been approved? If necessary, how about...

• When a new form is assumed, choose one natural weapon to be affected. The natural weapon now takes on a black colour, the same as the claw on the necklace.

[Ndreare]

I approved it several times I'm not sure I guess it's in John's hands who is your GM?

[Venatus Vinco]

I am the GM, this looks good to me.

VV